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Paradise is a despair. Paradiso is nothing but arid soap.
Purgatory is an Arty Group. (Alternately, Purgatorio is a poor guitar.)
Inferno? You'll find no finer place.
Paradise is a despair. Paradiso is nothing but arid soap.
Purgatory is an Arty Group. (Alternately, Purgatorio is a poor guitar.)
Inferno? You'll find no finer place.
In AP Physics in High School, I sat in the back doing crosswords. When a test happened, I'd just deduce all the identities I needed. Eventually, the crossword's more inspired answers led to word games. Now, I've been reminded of this by:
The term "absolute" only harms my argument if my definition of freedom of speech does not already exclude the sorts of cases MotJuste and I agree should be punishable. My contention is that free speech can be reasonably construed in a way that does already exclude those cases. I think that the "absolute" issue is a red herring here. MotJuste responds to my argument about accidental impedement of speech:
The above all seems both obvious and irrelevent. How do they support the pointPerhaps I should have qualified the term and said I believe in absolute legal freedom of speech. (i.e. congress shall make no law...) I had assumed that we were using the term as shorthand for something like the 1st amendment.Anyhow, I hope an example will clear up what I mean by speech as speech.
of your beleif in absolute speech, or the statement that "free speech does not
mean you can say whatever you want"? Unless your point is 'you can't say what
you want if you're mute/dead' which, duh. You also cannot say what you want if
you're too stupid to express it, or don't know the language you wish to speak
in, or are unconcious, or are a potted plant, etc. Irrelevent.
The will to perform a violent act is not punishable by law. It is the physicalThis is false. Unless I've somehow missed the point. If I hold a large knife up to someone and say "I will kill you with this now," the law recognizes this as grounds for intervention. However, if a theater actor on stage says the exact same words to another actor, this is not grounds for intervention. But I can also be arrested for attempted murder if I swing a knife at someone and am stopped before it kills that person.Case 1: speech and punishmentCase 2: speech and no punishmentCase 3: punishment and no speechClearly, speech is not the criterion here. In case 1 and case 3, assuming no actual physical wound is made, what is being punished is clearly the will to act. If we somehow knew that the assailant meant to run up to someone with a knife, swing, and then stop the blade before it touched the other person, attempted murder would not be the appropriate charge. At the same time, freedom of speech does not protect us from actions that accidentally -- that is, with some other goal in mind -- impede speech.Otherwise, we could not punish people on the basis of confessions or guilty pleas.To put it simply, freedom of speech means that there must be no restriction that simply states "you may not say [x]."
action taken-- speech-- that is punished. Speech which is an incitement to
violence is a kind of speech and therefore if it is limited, speech is not
absolutely free.
In response to Support Censorship by MotJuste:
I don't believe in free speech. Anyone you ask will say they do and mostly they're lying, because free speech means anything, means you can say absolutely anything with no legal consequences, including slander, libel, plaigarism, etc. And people will then go "Well obviously not slander" but then, that's censorship. There's that famous Voltaire quote "I might not agree with what you have to say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." I disagree with that, but I admire him for it because he really understood the principle. Most people who advocate freedom of speech and no censorshipnhave no idea what they're talking about.
And then, oh, the artists. Censorship of art. I love artists and the arts and part of my censorship support is for them: I believe that people don't have the right to violate others' rights to life, liberty or property, and that it is possible to do so with words. Plaigarism is a violation of the victim's right to property. Lying about someone ina court of law can get them injustly imprisoned-- liberty. And if you have information about a te year old girl, where she lives, what her daily routine is, and you put that information up all over the web for any crazy to see along with easy step-by-step instructions on how to kidnap, rape and murder her, that's a violation of her right to life and it shouldn't be allowed.
These sound extreme and I know tha tthey're exceptions, not the rule. And usually I support freedom of speech, but any exception at all means I support censorship, so the standard goes like this:
"We have the right to freedom of speech, to be limited if and only if said speech constitutes a clear and present danger to the fundamnetal rights of others, is slander, plaigarism or libel, or would falsely incite a reasonable person to violence or panic."
It isn't perfectly worded, of course.
It's either that or I support total freedom of speech, in which the victim could retaliate by mailing detailed accounts of how to get into the perp's home to every psycho who might try it but honestly, I'd rather just have everyone protected.
And, there's a real life example.
There's a little college in Canada. Around the campus there were Missing Women posters. They detailed that these women were missing and had probably been abducted from the campus. Women were urged to watch out, be safe. This sort of thing isn't uncommon-- violent crimes against women are an unfortunate but very present reality in most modern womens' minds-- and a lot of people were very angry and afraid. A rally was organized, people met at a certain place and time to go looking for these women. But instead of going looking for them, the search party was lead to the concert of a new band. The posters had been a publicity stunt to raise buzz. The man who thought it up, named Edwin Booth, also directed the band's music video-- which pictured them abducting and beating their old ex-girlfriends and advocated those actions. Booth, when criticized, claimed that people were trying to censor him for his art. He claimed to be a supporter of total free speech. (Later he complained that people were slandering him.)
By my standards, Edwin Booth should go to jail.
By his standards, someone should be allowed to to find out all of his personal information. Where he lives, when he's home and when he isn't. What the easiest way is to break into his house. That person then finds out an easy way to kill Edwin Booth. Shooting him, say. This person then finds out places where you can buy guns, and how to get rid of one afterwards. How to cover forensic evidence and where to run to when you've finished. They then find someone-- say, a man, somewhat deranged, who's daughter was kidnapped and beaten, raped and killed, who is very angry and has nothing left to lose. They give this man this information. They sit down with him and convince him that Edwin Booth has to die. The man uses this information to kill Edwin Booth, get away with it, is never found. Or maybe he is found, or he dies in the process, or whatever. The person who provided him with the information is entirely public about doing so. Makes the public statement, "Edwin Booth deserved to die and I saw to it that he did. The only thing I didn't do was pull the trigger." That person can't be arrested.
Wherein lies justice?
Hooray. My two target piano skills have finally begun to materialize.
So, I've just read The Birth of Tragedy, and I'm pretty sure now that Nietzsche poses, as I suspected, the only serious challenge to the examined life.
Instapundit points out Michael Totten's photo-fisking of Juan Cole. Totten responds to Cole's assertion that "We are not at war" with a series of photographs of the awful deeds of the terrorists. But I think this misses the point. Cole was commenting not on the magnitude of the threat we face, but the kind of threat.
You have to think about terrorists as units of hardware, on which software has
been installed. The software is a world-view, a set of premises about the world,
which then make sense of the terrorist's actions. How does the software get
installed? The potential terrorist meets the installer socially and falls under
his spell. The terrorists don't have a social background in common. They aren't
lumpen proletariat or working class or middle class or bourgeois. Or rather,
they have in their ranks persons from all these backgrounds.The terrorists don't
have an ethnicity in common. Richard Reid and Lindsey Germaine were Caribbean.
Others are Arabs. Some have been Somali or Eritrean or Tanzanian. Others have
been South Asia (India/Pakistan/Bangladesh). Still others have been
African-American or white Americans. They don't even have to start out Muslim.
Ayman al-Zawahiri was particularly proud of an al-Qaeda operative in Afghanistan
who had been an American Jew in a previous life. Ziad Jarrah, one of the
September 11 hijackers, appears to have been a relatively secular young man
right to the end. It isn't about religion, except insofar as religion is a basis
on which the recruiter can approach his victim. Islam as a religion forbids
terrorism. But then so does Christianity, and that doesn't stop there being
Christian terrorists. They are a fringe in both religions.If you try to
"profile" the terrorist using such social markers as class or ethnicity, maybe
even religious background, you will go badly astray.What then do they have in
common? They got the software installed in their minds. Why? Because they met
the installer, and were susceptible to his worldview. That's all they have in
common.
So how do you fight this form of terror? You disrupt the installation of the
software in more and more minds. You adopt policies that make the story the
software tells implausible. And you reach out to make sure people hear the
implausibility.
I can't figure out who they think they are fighting a war against. It sure
isn't the Muslim world. Morocco as a country couldn't be more friendly and
cooperative, and we have good trade relations with it. Algeria likewise.
Tunisia? A topflight relationship. Even Libya is coming around. Egypt? A
non-NATO ally. Palestine? We give them hundreds of millions of dollars a year.
Jordan? A closer friend you couldn't find. Lebanon? Very friendly except for
Hizbullah and even they haven't hit American targets any time in the past
decade. Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Qatar, Yemen, Oman, Iraq, Turkey, Uzbekistan,
Afghanistan.
It is incredible how good the relations are between the United States and
almost all the countries of the Muslim world. They provide us with a NATO ally
(Turkey) and 4 of our five non-NATO allies! The only sour notes are Bashar
al-Asad in Syria (who hasn't done anything to us as far as I know) and Iran,
with which our relationship needn't be different from that with Venezuela under
Chavez (leaders of both countries badmouth the US, but don't seem actively to
harm us in ways that are visible to me). It will be argued that Iran is trying
to get a nuclear weapon. But a) we don't know that for sure; and b) even if it
were to succeed in doing so, how would it be different from the Soviet Union,
which hated us much more than Iran does and which had thousands of warheads
pointed at us? So far no two countries, both of which have nuclear weapons, have
fought a major war with one another, and the reason is clear. This is not to say
it could not happen, but it is unlikely. As for the Mad Cheney scenario whereby
a state gives nuclear weapons to terrorists to use on the US, puh- lease. Even
my five year old niece wouldn't believe that whopper. States don't share nuclear
bombs with terrorists; and it is not as if a bomb's provenance could not easily
be traced.
A few weeks ago I was invited to giv a d'var Torah -- a little talk about a portion of the five books of Moses. The portion for that week was Numbers, ch. 13-15. Here it is, with slight modifications:
The New York Times's Sarah Boxer has written an atrociously condescending and snobbish attack on a beautiful statement against the terrorists, We're Not Afraid.